Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/11/1996 01:35 PM Senate CRA

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           SB 287 UNINCORP. COMMUNITY MATCHING GRANTS                         
                                                                              
 CHAIRMAN TORGERSON  called the Senate Community & Regional Affairs            
 Committee meeting to order at 1:35 p.m.  He brought SB 287 before             
 the committee as the only order of business.                                  
                                                                               
 Number 015                                                                    
                                                                               
  DEB DAVIDSON , committee aide, presenting an overview on the                 
 legislation, explained there are two capital matching grant                   
 programs in the state today:  The Municipal Capital Project                   
 Matching Grant Program and the Unincorporated Community Matching              
 Grant Program.  The purpose of these programs is to:                          
                                                                               
  (1)  provide a capital project funding system that is                        
 equitable to municipalities and unincorporated communities                    
 throughout the state;                                                         
                                                                               
  (2)  enhance the role of communities in initiating and                       
 prioritizing the construction of capital projects;                            
                                                                               
  (3)  encourage a sense of local ownership in capital projects                
 by requiring local participation; and                                         
                                                                               
  (4)  improve  the process for making grants for capital                      
 projects by providing a more orderly and thoughtful planning                  
 process that involves the local community, the executive branch and           
 the legislature.                                                              
                                                                               
 SB 287 revises the Unincorporated Community Capital Project                   
 Matching Grant to enable unincorporated located within boroughs to            
 participate.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Currently, when these communities want a capital project, they must           
 first convince their borough that the project has a higher priority           
 than those which benefit the entire borough, and has a higher than            
 projects for other communities within that borough.  Once the                 
 project is placed on the borough's list, it then goes through the             
 state process.                                                                
                                                                               
 This legislation allows unincorporated communities within boroughs            
 to apply for a capital projects matching grant provided that the              
 project and the administering agency qualify on the same basic                
 terms as the unincorporated communities in the unorganized borough            
 and have the written approval of the boroughs in which they are in.           
                                                                               
 Ms. Davidson directed attention to a draft committee substitute               
 which adds a new Section 4.  Currently, unincorporated communities            
 in the unorganized borough have a 5 percent local share match.                
 Recognizing that because they are in organized boroughs                       
 unincorporated communities may receive greater benefits, the new              
 section provides that the local share requirement for                         
 unincorporated communities within boroughs would be the same as the           
 borough themselves.                                                           
                                                                               
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 Summarizing the legislation,  SENATOR TORGERSON  said the legislation         
 will allow unincorporated areas within organized boroughs to                  
 participate in the matching grant program.  Criteria includes                 
 approval of the community by the borough assembly, project approval           
 by the borough assembly, and the local share match must be the same           
 as the borough's local share.                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 105                                                                    
                                                                               
  MARK HICKEY , representing the Lake & Peninsula Borough, directed            
 attention to a letter from Walt Wrede, borough manager of the Lake            
 & Peninsula Borough, which states the borough sees SB 287 as                  
 helpful bill which corrects an inequity in the current program.               
                                                                               
                                                                               
 Mr. Hickey noted there are  17 communities in the Lake & Peninsula            
 Borough, 11 of which are unincorporated.  Last year the borough               
 received approximately $44,000 to spend on those 11 communities,              
 which, when divided up, was about $4,000 per community, as compared           
 to the $25,000 that the unincorporated communities otherwise get              
 who are outside boroughs.  This year the cut would be $25,000 for             
 those 11 communities, and at $2,000 a community, they can maybe               
 take the top priority or two.  He said the current setup penalizes            
 an area that incorporates as a borough in terms in how it treats it           
 unincorporated communities, and SB 287 will correct that inequity.            
                                                                               
 Mr. Hickey stated he has not seen the committee substitute, but he            
 understands what the provision would do and he believes the 30                
 percent match for their borough is fair.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 145                                                                    
                                                                               
  KIM METCALFE HELMAR , representing the Department of Community &             
 Regional Affairs, stated SB 287 addresses the department's policy             
 concerns by requiring that a borough have a significant role in the           
 planning and development activities within the borough.  In terms             
 of fiscal impact to the department, the addition of an estimated 60           
 communities to the Unincorporated Community Capital Match Program             
 will double the workload of existing staff and will necessitate the           
 addition of a Range 13 grants administrator position.                         
                                                                               
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  LENA SIMMONS , Grants Administrator, Department of Administration,           
 stated that administratively the legislation would not have an                
 impact on their department.  However, depending upon how the                  
 Legislature decides to fund the program, it could cause a decrease            
 in the allocations to the municipalities if the same dollar amount            
 is appropriated this year and split between the unincorporated side           
 and the municipal side.                                                       
                                                                               
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  TENA BAVARD , Grants Administrator, Department of Community &                
 Regional Affairs, said the legislation would double the amount of             
 eligible communities and it could potentially triple or quadruple             
 the amount of work.  She explained a grantee is allowed multiple              
 projects with the dollars that they get each year, and there is no            
 way to estimate the amount of workload.                                       
                                                                               
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  SENATOR TORGERSON  said another option would be to make it a pure            
 grant program with a maximum of $25,000.  There would be a criteria           
 and the communities would have to compete for the grant program.              
 He asked if the department would prefer that type of an approach.             
  MS. BAVARD  responded that never having a done a program of that             
 type, she is not sure what the impact would be to her specific                
 office.                                                                       
                                                                               
  SENATOR TORGERSON  asked if the Administration supports the                  
 legislation.   MICHAEL CUSHING  of the Division of Municipal &                
 Regional Assistance, DCRA, responded no one from the department was           
 present who could give a response to a question which really speaks           
 to departmental policy.  Speaking to Senator Torgerson's suggestion           
 of a competitive grant program with a $25,000 maximum, he said it             
 would essentially be like their Rural Development Assistance                  
 Program, which has $100,000 per community.  He also pointed out if            
 there were 60 new participants in the unincorporated matching                 
 program, there are two things to keep separate in mind:  one is the           
 programmatic changes and on the other side is the appropriation               
 concept.  There are two programs within the capital matching grant            
 program, and how they are funded is entirely up to the Legislature.           
 In the past, the unincorporated side has been fully funded, but on            
 the municipal side, whatever was left of the overall appropriation            
 to the capital match program went to the municipal side.                      
                                                                               
  SENATOR TORGERSON  asked if under the capital matching grants                
 program, eligible communities could accumulate up to $125,000 over            
 a five-year period.   TENA BAVARD  acknowledged that was correct, and         
 she added that if the funds are appropriated by the Legislature,              
 the money is automatically put into their community account, if the           
 community was eligible the prior year.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 330                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR TORGERSON  commented what he is trying to do is to change            
 the system into a grant driven system to where a community comes in           
 with a project, and, if certain criteria is met and the project is            
 approved, the money is given towards the project regardless of                
 whether the community is inside or outside a borough without                  
 changing any of the appropriation process.                                    
                                                                               
  MICHAEL CUSHING  pointed out the money is held by the department in          
 an account in the community's name, and when the community comes up           
 with a plan and the matching funds for a project, then they can               
 receive the money.   SENATOR TORGERSON  said his point is that it is          
 money driving a project instead of a project looking for money,               
 because every unincorporated community knows that money is sitting            
 there and knows it doesn't go away for five years.                            
                                                                               
 Number 364                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR HOFFMAN  stated he would favor leaving the program as it is          
 in current statute and to make the changes originally contemplated.           
                                                                               
  SENATOR TORGERSON  reiterated his intent is to make the program into         
 a pure grant program whereby all the communities will apply for a             
 grant, and the automatic hold-over of $125,000 won't be a part of             
 it.  The project would have to be approved before a community could           
 accumulate the money.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 390                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR HOFFMAN  asked what type of criteria would be used to                
 evaluate which community would get a project.   SENATOR TORGERSON             
 answered it was his intent to let the department draft the criteria           
 that would be needed.                                                         
                                                                               
  SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS  asked how the communities make decisions on          
 their priority projects.   TENA BAVARD  responded they have community         
 meetings, and they have to submit their priority project by                   
 resolution by a certain date.                                                 
                                                                               
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  SENATOR KELLY  questioned if any consideration has been given to the         
 fiscal note on the legislation.  He suggested the program could be            
 made self paying by having the community pay an amount for every              
 grant that was awarded so that it was program receipt money paying            
 for the program and not general fund money.  He added that anything           
 that impacts the general fund will have a problem in the process.             
                                                                               
  MICHAEL CUSHING  briefly discussed the department's selection                
 process and evaluation of potential new applicants, and he said               
 they may have to install regulations so there is a process that's             
 recognized in place where a borough would have a participation in             
 the selection of which communities are recognized by a borough.  He           
 pointed out the borough has the right to recognize the entity, but            
 it's not clear in the legislation that the department can then say            
 the entity does not meet the criteria and is not eligible.   SENATOR          
 TORGERSON  agreed that provision may have to be put in a new                  
 committee substitute.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 487                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR ZHAROFF  asked if there is an appeal process for a community         
 that may want to participate in some degree, but is denied by the             
 borough and the department.   MICHAEL CUSHING  replied there is no            
 such provision in the legislation and the department might have to            
 provide for such a process through regulation.    SENATOR TORGERSON           
 commented there is already the administrative appeal process that             
 is currently under regulations, and he wasn't sure he would want to           
 set up something more.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 505                                                                    
                                                                               
 There being no further testimony on SB 287,  SENATOR TORGERSON                
 stated a new committee substitute would be drafted to reflect the             
 discussion on the legislation and that it would be back before the            
 committee at its next meeting.  He then adjourned the meeting at              
 2:12 p.m.                                                                     

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